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Kasus Rekaman Lalu Gigih dengan Indra Bekti

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  • aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.


    Ha?? I have never been with a man??
    Gk salah baca nih??

    Statement mu itu multi interpretasi

    Ngeliat betapa semangatnya lu nanggapin foto2 Yon Wijaya dg segala pose di imajenasi lo. Masak iya sih lu "have never been with a man"?

    Gk percaya gw… dari komen lu terkesanlu
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    Inilah jadinya kalau gay terpaksa menikah karena tuntutan lingkungan. Kasihan istrinya dan anak-anaknya.
    Saya ga peduli kasus ini melibatkan gay atau bukan, yang namanya adultery di mata saya sangat salah. Menghianati kepercayaan orang yang mau hidup semati sama kita is a big no no. Makanya gays kalau ga bisa jaga diri, jangan nikah dulu :neutral:
    Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?
  • greyarea wrote: »
    10 tahunan lalu gw pernah jd manager artis... gw jdnya agak ngerti soal dunia gay dikalangan artis. Sebenernya kl gw pikr.... IB itu salahnya krn dia main apa.... kebakar sendirilah..... seharusnya karna dia artis terkenal dia main ama yg prof aja... tp mungkin sensinya beda yah antara psk ama yg bukan.... intinya mah indra salah jalan ini.... ngajakin org tidur dengan imbalan bakal diorbitin. Sesuatu yg kyknya ga dilakukan artis2 gay beristri lainnya. Kl IB menawarkan ketenaran... yg lainnya ngak. Yg lainnya cmn menawarkan sensasi ml ama artis. Yg intinya mau ml sm artis apa bukan mah sama aja.... buat IB mudah2an masyarakat indonesia yg ga ngerti dunia gay masi bisa nerima dia setelah kejadian ini berlalu.... buat temen2 semua mari kt doakan IB biar kuat dan biar kasusnya cpt kelar dan dilupakan sm fansnya... buat yg ngelaporin.... kl mau jd artis usaha aja yg bener.... dan jgn lupa doa ama yg diatas. Jgn pake sensasi gini... jd artis itu selain usaha... garis tangan jgn paling menentukan km bisa jd artis apa ngak. Tunjukan sesuatu yg beda.... kl gak lo ganteng bgt... sekalian lo ancur bgt ataukan lo punya skill yg ga biasa.... kl cmn ngandalin sensasi... maaf cong.. lo bukan cewek yg telanjang aja jd sensasi.. kl lo telanjang paling dirujuk ke rumah sakit jiwa
    greyarea wrote: »
    10 tahunan lalu gw pernah jd manager artis... gw jdnya agak ngerti soal dunia gay dikalangan artis. Sebenernya kl gw pikr.... IB itu salahnya krn dia main apa.... kebakar sendirilah..... seharusnya karna dia artis terkenal dia main ama yg prof aja... tp mungkin sensinya beda yah antara psk ama yg bukan.... intinya mah indra salah jalan ini.... ngajakin org tidur dengan imbalan bakal diorbitin. Sesuatu yg kyknya ga dilakukan artis2 gay beristri lainnya. Kl IB menawarkan ketenaran... yg lainnya ngak. Yg lainnya cmn menawarkan sensasi ml ama artis. Yg intinya mau ml sm artis apa bukan mah sama aja.... buat IB mudah2an masyarakat indonesia yg ga ngerti dunia gay masi bisa nerima dia setelah kejadian ini berlalu.... buat temen2 semua mari kt doakan IB biar kuat dan biar kasusnya cpt kelar dan dilupakan sm fansnya... buat yg ngelaporin.... kl mau jd artis usaha aja yg bener.... dan jgn lupa doa ama yg diatas. Jgn pake sensasi gini... jd artis itu selain usaha... garis tangan jgn paling menentukan km bisa jd artis apa ngak. Tunjukan sesuatu yg beda.... kl gak lo ganteng bgt... sekalian lo ancur bgt ataukan lo punya skill yg ga biasa.... kl cmn ngandalin sensasi... maaf cong.. lo bukan cewek yg telanjang aja jd sensasi.. kl lo telanjang paling dirujuk ke rumah sakit jiwa

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  • Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?
    Adultery itu lu ml sama orang yang bukan pasangan legal lu dalam keadaan udah punya pasangan legal. Kalo ml sama orang yang sama-sama belum nikah namanya fornication.

    Adultery bisa jadi tindakan kriminal kalau pasangan legal lu (istri/suami) lapor ke polisi. Kalau fornication legal, alias bukan tindakan kriminal.

    Itu yang selama ini gw pahami dari hukum Indonesia. Mungkin bisa berbeda di beberapa daerah terutama kalau berhubungan dengan homosexual act, seperti Aceh dan Palembang. CMIIW
  • Semangat kaka, semoga gue cepet jadi artis.
  • Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?
    Adultery itu lu ml sama orang yang bukan pasangan legal lu dalam keadaan udah punya pasangan legal. Kalo ml sama orang yang sama-sama belum nikah namanya fornication.

    Adultery bisa jadi tindakan kriminal kalau pasangan legal lu (istri/suami) lapor ke polisi. Kalau fornication legal, alias bukan tindakan kriminal.

    Itu yang selama ini gw pahami dari hukum Indonesia. Mungkin bisa berbeda di beberapa daerah terutama kalau berhubungan dengan homosexual act, seperti Aceh dan Palembang. CMIIW

    @Johntravors thx for the clarification, tapi @fadlifadlan gak totally wrong juga soalnya klo mau ditranslate ke B. Indonesia ya adultery itu ya emang perzinahan tapi mungkin karena beda culture kita dgn western culture perzinahan yg ada di persepsi kita itu lebih ke premarital sex or as u said, fornication di western culture, but i'm pretty sure the first one to mention the word adultery in this thread meant it as this 'sex between a married person and someone who is not that person's wife or husband'.
  • aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.


    Ha?? I have never been with a man??
    Gk salah baca nih??

    Statement mu itu multi interpretasi

    Ngeliat betapa semangatnya lu nanggapin foto2 Yon Wijaya dg segala pose di imajenasi lo. Masak iya sih lu "have never been with a man"?

    Gk percaya gw… dari komen lu terkesanlu
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    Inilah jadinya kalau gay terpaksa menikah karena tuntutan lingkungan. Kasihan istrinya dan anak-anaknya.
    Saya ga peduli kasus ini melibatkan gay atau bukan, yang namanya adultery di mata saya sangat salah. Menghianati kepercayaan orang yang mau hidup semati sama kita is a big no no. Makanya gays kalau ga bisa jaga diri, jangan nikah dulu :neutral:
    Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?

    Tentu saja itu adalah keputusan anda untuk percaya atau tidak. Bukan hak saya untuk memaksa. Tapi saya katakan sekali lagi, saya memang belum pernah "berbuat" dengan pria. Menimbang kehidupan pribadi yg sedang saya jalani dan juga pekerjaan saya saat ini, saya pikir saya tidak sebodoh itu untuk menukarnya beberapa puluh menit kegiatan seksual sejenis. Itu pilihan saya kan. Saya lihat ada keanehan dalam cara berpikir logis anda sehingga sampai pada kesimpulan bahwa orang yg berkomentar dan berimajinasi tentang sesuatu pasti pernah melakukannya. Jika seseorang sangat ingin minum cola sambil bersantai di bulan dan kemudian membicarakannya pada orang lain apakah dia pasti sudah pernah ke bulan? Dan tentang adultery, itu lebih kepada disloyalty. Anda mau bilang kalau semua homo pasti melakukan adultery? Mas, ga semua homo binal dalam perilakunya di dunia nyata. Kalau anda melakukannya jangan "maksa" bahwa orang lain juga melakukan hal yang sama.
  • aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.


    Ha?? I have never been with a man??
    Gk salah baca nih??

    Statement mu itu multi interpretasi

    Ngeliat betapa semangatnya lu nanggapin foto2 Yon Wijaya dg segala pose di imajenasi lo. Masak iya sih lu "have never been with a man"?

    Gk percaya gw… dari komen lu terkesanlu
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    Inilah jadinya kalau gay terpaksa menikah karena tuntutan lingkungan. Kasihan istrinya dan anak-anaknya.
    Saya ga peduli kasus ini melibatkan gay atau bukan, yang namanya adultery di mata saya sangat salah. Menghianati kepercayaan orang yang mau hidup semati sama kita is a big no no. Makanya gays kalau ga bisa jaga diri, jangan nikah dulu :neutral:
    Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?

    Tentu saja itu adalah keputusan anda untuk percaya atau tidak. Bukan hak saya untuk memaksa. Tapi saya katakan sekali lagi, saya memang belum pernah "berbuat" dengan pria. Menimbang kehidupan pribadi yg sedang saya jalani dan juga pekerjaan saya saat ini, saya pikir saya tidak sebodoh itu untuk menukarnya beberapa puluh menit kegiatan seksual sejenis. Itu pilihan saya kan. Saya lihat ada keanehan dalam cara berpikir logis anda sehingga sampai pada kesimpulan bahwa orang yg berkomentar dan berimajinasi tentang sesuatu pasti pernah melakukannya. Jika seseorang sangat ingin minum cola sambil bersantai di bulan dan kemudian membicarakannya pada orang lain apakah dia pasti sudah pernah ke bulan? Dan tentang adultery, itu lebih kepada disloyalty. Anda mau bilang kalau semua homo pasti melakukan adultery? Mas, ga semua homo binal dalam perilakunya di dunia nyata. Kalau anda melakukannya jangan "maksa" bahwa orang lain juga melakukan hal yang sama.

    Ini komen saya di salah satu thread lawas. Saya pikir bisa saya jadikan pendukung untuk pernyataan saya yang anda gugat. Tapi tentu saja, anda masih bisa memutuskan untuk tidak percaya :)
    aname2001 wrote: »
    kukangjawa wrote: »
    Gw cuman bisa mantengin, ga ada yg diceritain boro boro ngoralin yg straight yg gay aja belom pernah.hahaha. *cupu kok bangga*

    Same here. Tapi saya pernah mau di"coba"2 sama teman yg ternyata gay. Awalnya dipegang2 daerah situ. Saya diam saja. Lalu saat dia medekatkan mulutnya dan membuka zipper saya, saya yg sedari tadi menahan geli akhirnya tidak mampu membendung tawa lalu terbahak keras. Dia yg berpikir saya straight (or maybe I am, I'm still not sure) memandang saya dengan tatapan bersalah (atau mungkin terhina) kemudian berlari meinggalkan saya.

    Entah kenapa saat lihat gayporn ok ok saja. Tapi saat di dunia nyata kenapa ada rasa geli2 tidak rela tapi sebenarnya pengen coba juga ya. Ah, entahlah... Hahahaha...
    aname2001 wrote: »
    adeape wrote: »
    @aname2001 virgin, eh?

    Belum pernah melakukan hubungan seksual dgn pria. Paling jauh ya seperti yg saya sebutkan di atas :)

    Ok baiklah. Cukup tentang saya. Silahkan kembali ke kasus Bekti.
  • aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.


    Ha?? I have never been with a man??
    Gk salah baca nih??

    Statement mu itu multi interpretasi

    Ngeliat betapa semangatnya lu nanggapin foto2 Yon Wijaya dg segala pose di imajenasi lo. Masak iya sih lu "have never been with a man"?

    Gk percaya gw… dari komen lu terkesanlu
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    aname2001 wrote: »
    aname2001 wrote: »
    YourSenpai wrote: »
    The amount of people who supports adultery in this thread is sickening.

    Finally. I thought I'm the only one in this forum who think like that.

    Elu gay tapi gk bisa memposisikan diri di posisi gay itu more sickening.

    Adultery??? Take a mirror please… you've done this (probably the most)

    Siapa yg dukung "adultery"!??
    As a gay, as a human, kita prihatin sama kehidupannya mereka. Sebelumnya rumah tangga mreka baik2 aja, sekarang malah ada goncangan. Itu yg bikin kita kasihan,kita kasih support biar lebih semangat.

    Gay bukan berarti gk punya hak berumah tangga… tetap dengan naturalnya sbg gay…

    Oops, I've never been with man. How can you say I've done that. And you think every single gay in this world should positioned himself at Bekti's side? That's crazy. Being gay doesn't automatically make you a slut, rite? It's a different code. Bekti is the one who betrayed his wife, but we should support him with his betrayal? Or we should blame Gigih for that? Really?? So, you think Bekti is the victim in this case? Regardless Gigih reported this or not, the victim of his action are still his wife and his kids. There's risk in every action. He should known better. If someone decided to start a family by marrying a girl and still want to live his slutty life with men, that's fine. That's his decision. But please first be open about it to the future wife. Don't deceive her, for you yourself don't wanna be treated like that.
    Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he should defend another gay's stupidity.
    Inilah jadinya kalau gay terpaksa menikah karena tuntutan lingkungan. Kasihan istrinya dan anak-anaknya.
    Saya ga peduli kasus ini melibatkan gay atau bukan, yang namanya adultery di mata saya sangat salah. Menghianati kepercayaan orang yang mau hidup semati sama kita is a big no no. Makanya gays kalau ga bisa jaga diri, jangan nikah dulu :neutral:
    Dari kamus,adultery itu artinya perzinahan.

    Nah elu homo… dan ml sesama jenis itu including adultery dong?

    Tentu saja itu adalah keputusan anda untuk percaya atau tidak. Bukan hak saya untuk memaksa. Tapi saya katakan sekali lagi, saya memang belum pernah "berbuat" dengan pria. Menimbang kehidupan pribadi yg sedang saya jalani dan juga pekerjaan saya saat ini, saya pikir saya tidak sebodoh itu untuk menukarnya beberapa puluh menit kegiatan seksual sejenis. Itu pilihan saya kan. Saya lihat ada keanehan dalam cara berpikir logis anda sehingga sampai pada kesimpulan bahwa orang yg berkomentar dan berimajinasi tentang sesuatu pasti pernah melakukannya. Jika seseorang sangat ingin minum cola sambil bersantai di bulan dan kemudian membicarakannya pada orang lain apakah dia pasti sudah pernah ke bulan? Dan tentang adultery, itu lebih kepada disloyalty. Anda mau bilang kalau semua homo pasti melakukan adultery? Mas, ga semua homo binal dalam perilakunya di dunia nyata. Kalau anda melakukannya jangan "maksa" bahwa orang lain juga melakukan hal yang sama.

    Klo anda menyebut "itu pilihan" ya sama aja lah dg orang2 yg memutuskan untuk menikah lalu dikemudian hari dia berhubungan badan dg sesama jenis. Ya bisa aja dibilang, "itu kan piluhan hidup orang… orang memilih jalan hidupnya masing2"

    Konsep homo itu kan gk sesederhana itu "klo lu udah ada pasangan ya kudu setia… rasain lo IB udah selingkuh makan tuh akibatnya (IB)"

    Ya gk bisa gitu juga dong? Menikah itu keputusan (yg elu sebut pilihan itu tadi)sedangkan berhubungan badan itu natufalnya dia (yg lu sebut adultery itu tadi). Bukan serta merta gk setia sama pasangan, tapi ya memang naturalnya gitu.

    Ambil contoh BISEX, apa wajib mereka punya pasangan SETIA untuk masing2 jenis? banyak diantara mereka memutuskan menikah dan menjalin hubungan dg laki2 lain. Itu bukan berarti gk setia,kan naturalnya bisrx seperti itu? Klo menyebut "itu kan pilihan…"

    Ya benar,namanya manusia pilihan hidupnya beda2 mengikuti bamyak faktor baik agama dan nagsu dan lainnya.


    Lalu lu menyebut "the amount of people supporting adultery here is sickening"
    Gw justru merespon justru elu yg sickening, ya namanya juga "PILIHAN hidup" (seperti kata lo)

    Antara cinta dan nafsu itu dua hal yg beda. Elu gay yg punya banyak pertentangan tapi gk bisa memahami posisi orang lain justru itu yg more sickening (buat gw).

    Orang2 disini kasih support bukan di bagian perselingkuh@nnya, tapi di bagian rumah tangganya yg diharapkan tetap langgeng (kan ada anak di situ, ada kebahagiaan yg sudah terjalin.

    *dan apa dia perlu dicaci maki… melarangnya untuk melirik laki2 lain?? NO… dia manusia yg punya nafsu, sama seperti kamu… sayang keluarga bukan berarti tititnya gk bisa ngaceng ngelihat cowok.


    Apa perlu elu2 menempatlan norma "gk bole selingkuh" ke mereka2 ini??

    Kok memaksakan norma ke kehidupannya orang?? Padahal elu sendiri gk suka ketika orang memaksakan norma ke kehidupan elu (cowok gk boleh berhubungan badan dg cowok). Kemudian elu teriak "ini kan pilihan hidup aku…!"

    Elu ngejalanin sesuatu yg di mata banyak orang adalah "salah"tapi lu menyalahkan "pilihan hidup orang lain"

    Sekki lagi gw tekankan, "pilihan hidup orang itu gk sesederhana itu"
  • Ambil cemilan dan kamus bahasa inggris dl... Kyk e makin seru nih
  • ff_lover wrote: »

    @Johntravors thx for the clarification, tapi @fadlifadlan gak totally wrong juga soalnya klo mau ditranslate ke B. Indonesia ya adultery itu ya emang perzinahan tapi mungkin karena beda culture kita dgn western culture perzinahan yg ada di persepsi kita itu lebih ke premarital sex or as u said, fornication di western culture, but i'm pretty sure the first one to mention the word adultery in this thread meant it as this 'sex between a married person and someone who is not that person's wife or husband'.

    Menterjemahkan tuh gak bisa saklak cuma liat kamus, mesti disesuaikan dengan konteks. Nah konteks si IB ini jelas adultery yg dimaksud adalah perselingkuhan orang yg sudah terikat perkawinan


  • Klo anda menyebut "itu pilihan" ya sama aja lah dg orang2 yg memutuskan untuk menikah lalu dikemudian hari dia berhubungan badan dg sesama jenis. Ya bisa aja dibilang, "itu kan piluhan hidup orang… orang memilih jalan hidupnya masing2"

    Konsep homo itu kan gk sesederhana itu "klo lu udah ada pasangan ya kudu setia… rasain lo IB udah selingkuh makan tuh akibatnya (IB)"

    Ya gk bisa gitu juga dong? Menikah itu keputusan (yg elu sebut pilihan itu tadi)sedangkan berhubungan badan itu natufalnya dia (yg lu sebut adultery itu tadi). Bukan serta merta gk setia sama pasangan, tapi ya memang naturalnya gitu.

    Benar bahwa menikah adalah pilihan. Tapi itu adalah keputusan bersama. Karena ada janji dan kesepakatan dalam suatu pernikahan. Sedangkan adultery adalah pengingkaran atau bahkan pengkhianatan dari keputusan tersebut.
    Ambil contoh BISEX, apa wajib mereka punya pasangan SETIA untuk masing2 jenis? banyak diantara mereka memutuskan menikah dan menjalin hubungan dg laki2 lain. Itu bukan berarti gk setia,kan naturalnya bisrx seperti itu? Klo menyebut "itu kan pilihan…"

    Bukan berarti tidak setia? Anda sudah membuat suatu komitmen dalam sebuah pernikahan, lalu anda menjalin hubungan dengan orang lain, justru ini adalah contoh sempurna untuk ketidaksetiaan.
    Lalu lu menyebut "the amount of people supporting adultery here is sickening"
    Gw justru merespon justru elu yg sickening, ya namanya juga "PILIHAN hidup" (seperti kata lo)

    Tolong dicek lagi, bukan saya yang menulis itu walaupun saya setuju dengan tulisannya.
    Antara cinta dan nafsu itu dua hal yg beda. Elu gay yg punya banyak pertentangan tapi gk bisa memahami posisi orang lain justru itu yg more sickening (buat gw).

    Orang2 disini kasih support bukan di bagian perselingkuh@nnya, tapi di bagian rumah tangganya yg diharapkan tetap langgeng (kan ada anak di situ, ada kebahagiaan yg sudah terjalin.

    Jangan lupa, yang memilih untuk berselingkuh adalah dia bukan anak/istrinya. Itu adalah akibat dari pilihan yang dia ambil sendiri. Berharap rumahtangga langgeng tapi selingkuh adalah sangat kontradiktif. Bukankah setiap pilihan dan keputusan ada konsekwensinya?
    *dan apa dia perlu dicaci maki… melarangnya untuk melirik laki2 lain?? NO… dia manusia yg punya nafsu, sama seperti kamu… sayang keluarga bukan berarti tititnya gk bisa ngaceng ngelihat cowok.

    Di bagian mana saya mencaci maki dia? Tentu saja semua punya nafsu, tapi apa iya semua nafsu harus dituruti untuk dipuaskan? Bukankah kemampuan mengontrol diri yang membedakan manusia dengan binatang? Apa iya setiap titit ngaceng liat cowo lalu harus ditancapkan?
    Apa perlu elu2 menempatlan norma "gk bole selingkuh" ke mereka2 ini??

    Kok memaksakan norma ke kehidupannya orang?? Padahal elu sendiri gk suka ketika orang memaksakan norma ke kehidupan elu (cowok gk boleh berhubungan badan dg cowok). Kemudian elu teriak "ini kan pilihan hidup aku…!"
    Elu ngejalanin sesuatu yg di mata banyak orang adalah "salah"tapi lu menyalahkan "pilihan hidup orang lain"

    Saya tidak mengerti apa yang anda bicarakan di atas ini.
    Sekki lagi gw tekankan, "pilihan hidup orang itu gk sesederhana itu"

    Boleh saja anda mau tekan sana tekan sini. Proses memilih mungkin tidak sederhana. Tetapi setelah menjadi keputusan ya silahkan dijalani. O, iya, saya juga mau nekan donk: setiap pilihan pasti ada konsekwensinya. Kalau sekarang konsekwensinya begini ya silahkan dihadapi. Jangan mengaburkan realita saat rekaman sudah di mana-mana. Berbohong lagi hanya akan mempermalukan diri sendiri. Toh orang sudah punya persepsi masing-masing tentang perkara ini. Lebih baik diam daripada mengingkari kebenaran.

    Selingkuh tapi berharap tidak ketahuan sama saja dengan mencuri tapi berharap tidak ketangkap. Sederhananya ya seperti itu.
  • edited February 2016
    AnToN_cepz wrote: »
    Ambil cemilan dan kamus bahasa inggris dl... Kyk e makin seru nih

    Ikutan ambil cemilan dan duduk samping AnToN_cepz sambil ngebayangin duduk bareng christian bautista :blush:

    #berharapliatadaygjambak2ankonde
  • @aname2001 setubuh #jempol #muach
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