Bentuk penis untuk ras yang berbeda2

yasir

kangataz wrote:

Hi,

gue lupa baca di buku apa tentang antropology kali ya...anyways ras2 yang gue sebut di atas itu adalah (berdasarkan buku itu) ras pokok. Ras2 lain di dunia merupakan persilangan antara 2 atau lebih dari ras2 tsb.

contoh:
middle eastern: kulit putih x Kulit hitam (makanya hidungnya mancung2)
russia: Asia (oriental spt chinese, jepang dan korea) x Kulit putih
asia tenggara: Asia x kulit hitam

mungkin karena itu asia tenggara bisa besar2(gen orang hitamnya hehe),atau org middle eastern juga besar(hitam+putih, wau!)

kayaknya nggak juga deh orang arab ad juga idungnya yg nggak mancung

kangataz

yasir wrote:

kangataz wrote:

Hi,

gue lupa baca di buku apa tentang antropology kali ya...anyways ras2 yang gue sebut di atas itu adalah (berdasarkan buku itu) ras pokok. Ras2 lain di dunia merupakan persilangan antara 2 atau lebih dari ras2 tsb.

contoh:
middle eastern: kulit putih x Kulit hitam (makanya hidungnya mancung2)
russia: Asia (oriental spt chinese, jepang dan korea) x Kulit putih
asia tenggara: Asia x kulit hitam

mungkin karena itu asia tenggara bisa besar2(gen orang hitamnya hehe),atau org middle eastern juga besar(hitam+putih, wau!)

kayaknya nggak juga deh orang arab ad juga idungnya yg nggak mancung

kan ada ras orng hitamnya, yang hidungnya belum tentu mancung...

satria

yasir wrote:

kayaknya nggak juga deh orang arab ada juga idungnya yg nggak mancung

uda de yasir .... lu nabung aja tuh duit ntar kalo dah chukup lu dateng de ke kampung gue di aryan sana ... trus lu masuk de ke sauna ... kliatan de ntar semuanya .... apa ntar kalo lu nyasar ke kampungnya kangataz ... kali kali aja dia mau nemenin jalan ke blow buddies ... hehehe ... di folsom street sane ....

pengen

Teman2, gimana kalo kita masukkan data penis kita sendiri yang ikut di bf sini... paling gak kita tau kira2 ukuran kita2 berapa?? gimana?? kayaknya lebih mendekati realita yang lebih terasa dan mengena..

Gw sih mau2 aja daftarin ukuran sendiri, cuman mungkin kurang sopan, jadi bisa dimulai dengan ukuran moderatornya kali ya???

Silahkan... kalo malu2 boleh pake user id tamu aja..

satria

pengen wrote:

Gw sih mau2 aja daftarin ukuran sendiri, cuman mungkin kurang sopan, jadi bisa dimulai dengan ukuran moderatornya kali ya???
Silahkan... kalo malu2 boleh pake user id tamu aja..

:shock: :shock: :shock: .......hehehe ... kamu tuh ya ..... paling bisak de ....kalo soal moderator .... kan banyak juga yg jadi moderator ...... kalo soal slangkangan ... hm .. hm ... karena aku org indo dan lahir di indo trus di gedhe-in nya pake sayur kangkung dan sayur bayem .... yah sepertinya gimana ukuran indo aja .... hehehe .... yg penting tuh pompa hidrolik dan mesin piston nya masih bekerja, malah masih bisa turbo tuh kalo diperlu-in ..... ( mudah mudah-an dah kejawab yg dr gue nya, ya khan )

kangataz

satria wrote:

pengen wrote:

Gw sih mau2 aja daftarin ukuran sendiri, cuman mungkin kurang sopan, jadi bisa dimulai dengan ukuran moderatornya kali ya???
Silahkan... kalo malu2 boleh pake user id tamu aja..

:shock: :shock: :shock: .......hehehe ... kamu tuh ya ..... paling bisak de ....kalo soal moderator .... kan banyak juga yg jadi moderator ...... kalo soal slangkangan ... hm .. hm ... karena aku org indo dan lahir di indo trus di gedhe-in nya pake sayur kangkung dan sayur bayem .... yah sepertinya gimana ukuran indo aja .... hehehe .... yg penting tuh pompa hidrolik dan mesin piston nya masih bekerja, malah masih bisa turbo tuh kalo diperlu-in ..... ( mudah mudah-an dah kejawab yg dr gue nya, ya khan )

wuah sama donk! kalo menurut rata2nya dari si Tamu, ukuran gue memang akurat untuk asia. Trus ngga tau kenapa iya mesti gue tambah kali ya org indonesia tekanannya kuat! jauh oi semua orang yang pernah liat gue nembak selalu jadi ketawa, malah sekali ada yang nepis ato miring kepalanya takut ketembak haha

wah om satria tau blow buddies juga toh... Pernah ke Nob Theater ngga? anaknya asik2 lho gue ama ex-gue pernah dikasih session gratis

satria

kangataz wrote:

satria tau blow buddies juga toh... Pernah ke Nob Theater ngga? anaknya asik2 lho gue ama ex-gue pernah dikasih session gratis

Nob Theater ... masih ada juga ... hehehe ... tempat mangkal tuh dulunya ... kalau Campus masih ada nggak ... yg deket Market street .. ?

vin_cent

ini sekedar tambahan onformasi aja.....gw punya ipar bule......tapi pas kita mandi bareng,...........astaga!!!....kok punya die lebih kecil dari punya gw yak? :shock: ?........padahal punya gw standar2 aja tuh....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

satria

vin_cent wrote:

ini sekedar tambahan onformasi aja.....gw punya ipar bule......tapi pas kita mandi bareng,...........astaga!!!....kok punya die lebih kecil dari punya gw yak? :shock: ?........padahal punya gw standar2 aja tuh....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

yah gitu lah .... dunia kelamin .... banyak ragamnya ... hehehe .... gue dah kebanyakan liat barang bulek tuh .. ( ngga nyombongin neh ... ) ... banyak juga tuh yg lebih kechilan dr gue .... dr yg muda ampe yg tuwir, apalagi kalau masuk ke sauna yg mixed ... mangkanya jangan jadi SIZE QUEEN full time deh ... repot .. hehehe ....

pengen

satria wrote:

vin_cent wrote:

ini sekedar tambahan onformasi aja.....gw punya ipar bule......tapi pas kita mandi bareng,...........astaga!!!....kok punya die lebih kecil dari punya gw yak? :shock: ?........padahal punya gw standar2 aja tuh....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

yah gitu lah .... dunia kelamin .... banyak ragamnya ... hehehe .... gue dah kebanyakan liat barang bulek tuh .. ( ngga nyombongin neh ... ) ... banyak juga tuh yg lebih kechilan dr gue .... dr yg muda ampe yg tuwir, apalagi kalau masuk ke sauna yg mixed ... mangkanya jangan jadi SIZE QUEEN full time deh ... repot .. hehehe ....

Jadi?? kesimpulannya.... mulai sekarang gak usah ngomongin kelamin sendiri ya... karena kita kan nyari kelamin orang lain.. gitu khan? Jadi kalo udah dapat ya udah nikmati aja.. yang penting ada dan terasa bila dipegang... Tapiiiiii, kalo rupanya cakep terus yang itu gak kerasa gimana yach?? koq gay nya jadi tidak kerasa ya??

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gressboy

kangataz wrote:

babylon wrote:

The usual view is that skin color varies geographically to enhance survival. Supposedly, people in sunny, tropical climates around the world have genetically dark skin, which is supposedly analogous to the temporary skin darkening of European whites in the summer. The supposed function of dark skin in sunny climates is for protection against skin cancer. Variations in eye color and hair form and color are also supposed to enhance survival under particular conditions, though no one has ever proposed a plausible hypothesis for how those variations might actually enhance survival.

Alas, the evidence for natural selection of skin color dissolves under scrutiny. Among tropical peoples, anthropologists love to stress the dark skins of African blacks, people of the southern Indian peninsula, and New Guineans and love to forget the pale skins of Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians living at the same latitudes. To wriggle out of those paradoxes, anthropologists then plead the excuse that Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians may not have been living in their present locations long enough to evolve dark skins. However, the ancestors of fair-skinned Swedes arrived even more recently in Scandinavia, and aboriginal Tasmanians were black-skinned despite their ancestors' having lived for at least the last 10,000 years at the latitude of Vladivostok.

Besides, when one takes into account cloud cover, peoples of equatorial West Africa and the New Guinea mountains actually receive no more ultraviolet radiation or hours of sunshine each year than do the Swiss. Compared with infectious diseases and other selective agents, skin cancer has been utterly trivial as a cause of death in human history, even for modern white settlers in the tropics. This objection is so obvious to believers in natural selection of skin color that they have proposed at least seven other supposed survival functions of skin color, without reaching agreement. Those other supposed functions include protection against rickets, frostbite, folic acid deficiency, beryllium poisoning, overheating, and overcooling. The diversity of these contradictory theories makes clear how far we are from understanding the survival value (if any) of skin color.

It wouldn't surprise me if dark skins do eventually prove to offer some advantage in tropical climates, but I expect the advantage to turn out to be a slight one that is easily overridden. But there's an overwhelming importance to skin, eye, and hair color that is obvious to all of us—sexual selection. Before we can reach a condition of intimacy permitting us to assess the beauty of a prospective sex partner's hidden physical attractions, we first have to pass muster for skin, eyes, and hair.

We all know how those highly visible "beauty traits" guide our choice of sex partners. Even the briefest personal ad in a newspaper mentions the advertiser's skin color, and the color of skin that he or she seeks in a partner. Skin color, of course, is also of overwhelming importance in our social prejudices. If you're a black African American trying to raise your children in white U.S. society, rickets and overheating are the least of the problems that might be solved by your skin color. Eye color and hair form and color, while not so overwhelmingly important as skin color, also play an obvious role in our sexual and social preferences. Just ask yourself why hair dyes, hair curlers, and hair straighteners enjoy such wide sales. You can bet that it's not to improve our chances of surviving grizzly bear attacks and other risks endemic to the North American continent.

...

As regards the function of all those traits that are useful for classifying human races, some serve to enhance survival, some to enhance sexual selection, while some serve no function at all. The traits we traditionally use are ones subject to sexual selection, which is not really surprising. These traits are not only visible at a distance but also highly variable; that's why they became the ones used throughout recorded history to make quick judgments about people. Racial classification didn't come from science but from the body's signals for differentiating attractive from unattractive sex partners, and for differentiating friend from foe.

Such snap judgments didn't threaten our existence back when people were armed only with spears and surrounded by others who looked mostly like themselves. In the modern world, though, we are armed with guns and plutonium, and we live our lives surrounded by people who are much more varied in appearance. The last thing we need now is to continue codifying all those different appearances into an arbitrary system of racial classification.

....

Diamond, Jared. “Race Without Color.” Discover Magazine, November 1994.

thank you atas infonya, tapi kitakan ngomongin penis...mana penisnya? Sepertinya artikel diatas itu menyentuh hal2 soal diskriminiasi dan perang...memangnya karena temen gue orng hitam penisnya lebih besar, gue jadi benci ama dia...kayanya ngga relevan dech

Bingung gw bacanya :shock: :shock: :shock:

gressboy

gressboy wrote:

kangataz wrote:

babylon wrote:

The usual view is that skin color varies geographically to enhance survival. Supposedly, people in sunny, tropical climates around the world have genetically dark skin, which is supposedly analogous to the temporary skin darkening of European whites in the summer. The supposed function of dark skin in sunny climates is for protection against skin cancer. Variations in eye color and hair form and color are also supposed to enhance survival under particular conditions, though no one has ever proposed a plausible hypothesis for how those variations might actually enhance survival.

Alas, the evidence for natural selection of skin color dissolves under scrutiny. Among tropical peoples, anthropologists love to stress the dark skins of African blacks, people of the southern Indian peninsula, and New Guineans and love to forget the pale skins of Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians living at the same latitudes. To wriggle out of those paradoxes, anthropologists then plead the excuse that Amazonian Indians and Southeast Asians may not have been living in their present locations long enough to evolve dark skins. However, the ancestors of fair-skinned Swedes arrived even more recently in Scandinavia, and aboriginal Tasmanians were black-skinned despite their ancestors' having lived for at least the last 10,000 years at the latitude of Vladivostok.

Besides, when one takes into account cloud cover, peoples of equatorial West Africa and the New Guinea mountains actually receive no more ultraviolet radiation or hours of sunshine each year than do the Swiss. Compared with infectious diseases and other selective agents, skin cancer has been utterly trivial as a cause of death in human history, even for modern white settlers in the tropics. This objection is so obvious to believers in natural selection of skin color that they have proposed at least seven other supposed survival functions of skin color, without reaching agreement. Those other supposed functions include protection against rickets, frostbite, folic acid deficiency, beryllium poisoning, overheating, and overcooling. The diversity of these contradictory theories makes clear how far we are from understanding the survival value (if any) of skin color.

It wouldn't surprise me if dark skins do eventually prove to offer some advantage in tropical climates, but I expect the advantage to turn out to be a slight one that is easily overridden. But there's an overwhelming importance to skin, eye, and hair color that is obvious to all of us—sexual selection. Before we can reach a condition of intimacy permitting us to assess the beauty of a prospective sex partner's hidden physical attractions, we first have to pass muster for skin, eyes, and hair.

We all know how those highly visible "beauty traits" guide our choice of sex partners. Even the briefest personal ad in a newspaper mentions the advertiser's skin color, and the color of skin that he or she seeks in a partner. Skin color, of course, is also of overwhelming importance in our social prejudices. If you're a black African American trying to raise your children in white U.S. society, rickets and overheating are the least of the problems that might be solved by your skin color. Eye color and hair form and color, while not so overwhelmingly important as skin color, also play an obvious role in our sexual and social preferences. Just ask yourself why hair dyes, hair curlers, and hair straighteners enjoy such wide sales. You can bet that it's not to improve our chances of surviving grizzly bear attacks and other risks endemic to the North American continent.

...

As regards the function of all those traits that are useful for classifying human races, some serve to enhance survival, some to enhance sexual selection, while some serve no function at all. The traits we traditionally use are ones subject to sexual selection, which is not really surprising. These traits are not only visible at a distance but also highly variable; that's why they became the ones used throughout recorded history to make quick judgments about people. Racial classification didn't come from science but from the body's signals for differentiating attractive from unattractive sex partners, and for differentiating friend from foe.

Such snap judgments didn't threaten our existence back when people were armed only with spears and surrounded by others who looked mostly like themselves. In the modern world, though, we are armed with guns and plutonium, and we live our lives surrounded by people who are much more varied in appearance. The last thing we need now is to continue codifying all those different appearances into an arbitrary system of racial classification.

....

Diamond, Jared. “Race Without Color.” Discover Magazine, November 1994.

thank you atas infonya, tapi kitakan ngomongin penis...mana penisnya? Sepertinya artikel diatas itu menyentuh hal2 soal diskriminiasi dan perang...memangnya karena temen gue orng hitam penisnya lebih besar, gue jadi benci ama dia...kayanya ngga relevan dech

Bingung gw bacanya :shock: :shock: :shock:

gw gak bisa bahasa Inggris, klo bahasa planet gw bisa

gressboy

pengen wrote:

satria wrote:

vin_cent wrote:

ini sekedar tambahan onformasi aja.....gw punya ipar bule......tapi pas kita mandi bareng,...........astaga!!!....kok punya die lebih kecil dari punya gw yak? :shock: ?........padahal punya gw standar2 aja tuh....... :roll: :roll: :roll:

yah gitu lah .... dunia kelamin .... banyak ragamnya ... hehehe .... gue dah kebanyakan liat barang bulek tuh .. ( ngga nyombongin neh ... ) ... banyak juga tuh yg lebih kechilan dr gue .... dr yg muda ampe yg tuwir, apalagi kalau masuk ke sauna yg mixed ... mangkanya jangan jadi SIZE QUEEN full time deh ... repot .. hehehe ....

Jadi?? kesimpulannya.... mulai sekarang gak usah ngomongin kelamin sendiri ya... karena kita kan nyari kelamin orang lain.. gitu khan? Jadi kalo udah dapat ya udah nikmati aja.. yang penting ada dan terasa bila dipegang... Tapiiiiii, kalo rupanya cakep terus yang itu gak kerasa gimana yach?? koq gay nya jadi tidak kerasa ya??

LO ngomong apa sih gw kaga ngerti :?: :?: :?:

kangataz

gressboy wrote:

gressboy wrote:

Bingung gw bacanya :shock: :shock: :shock:

gw gak bisa bahasa Inggris, klo bahasa planet gw bisa

aduh, gressboy, ok dech gue kurang kerjaan jadi gue bantuin terjemahin dech....di BACA LHO, dua jem nich terjemahinnya

Biasanya warna kulit itu berbeda2 secara geografis untuk membantu penyesuaian. Katanya, orang2 di tempat terik, beriklim tropis di seluruh dunia secara genetik memiliki kulit gelap, yang merupakan lawannya kulit gelap yang bersifat sementara milik orang kulit putih Eropa di musim panas. Fungsi yang seharusnya bagi kulit hitam di iklim yang terik adalah untuk perlindungan terhadap kanker kulit. Variasi warna mata, rambut, warna dan bentuknya adalah juga untuk membantu keselamatan saat dihadapi dengan kondisi2 tertentu, walaupun tidak pernah ada yang memberikan hipotesis yang kuat atas bagaimana variasi2 tersebut dapat menolong penyesuaian.

Akhirnya, bukti untuk seleksi alamiah warna kulit larut dalam permasalahan. Di antara orng2 tropis, para antropologis suka sekali menekankan kulit hitamnya org Negro di Afrika, orang2 di Hindia Selatan, dan org2 Papua, tapi mrk lupa memaparkan kulit pucatnya org2 Amazon dan Asia tenggara yang tinggal di latitud yang sama. Agar bisa lolos dari kontradiksi tersebut, para antropologis tersebut maka membuat alasan bahwa orang Amazon dan Asia Tenggara mungkin belum begitu lama tinggal di lokasi mrk tersebut untuk berevolusi menjadi kulit gelap. Tetapi, nenek moyang orang kulit putih dari Swedia tiba di Scandinavia bahkan sebelum itu, dan orang Aborigin Tasmania kulitnya hitam biarpun nenek moyangnya sudah tinggal disana paling tidak selama 10.000 tahun di latitude yang sama dengan Vladivostok.

Lagi pula, kalau misalnya diperkirakan perlindungan dari awan, orang2 di sekitar equator di Afrika Barat dan pegunungan Papua kenyataannya, tidak menerima lebih radiasi ultraviolet, atau terik matahari setiap tahunnya daripada org Swiss. Dibanding penyakit menular dan hal2 lain, kanker kulit selalu menjadi misteri atas penyebab kematian di sejarah manusia, bahkan untuk penduduk kulit putih yang modern yang tinggal di tempat tropis. Perlawanan ini sangatlah jelas bagi org yang percaya atas seleksi alamiah warna kulit sehingga mereka menambahkan paling tidak tujuh lagi perkiraan fungsi penyesuaian dari warna kulit tanpa menemukan persetujuan. Perkiraan fungsi2 tersebut adalah perlindungan terhadap polio, lecet, kebotakan, keracunan Berilium, kepanasan, kedinginan. Keluasan dari teori2 yang bertentangan ini menunjukkan seberapa jauh pemahaman kita atas fungsi penyesuaian (kalau ada) dari warna kulit.

Bukanlah suatu kejutan kalau kulit hitam suatu saat menunjukan keuntungan di iklim tropis, tapi saya rasa keuntungan ini hanya sedikit dan bisa dengan mudah ditentang. Tapi, ada kepentingan besar bagi kulit, mata, dan warna rambut yang begitu jelas bagi kita semua – selera seksual. Sebelum kita bisa mencapai hubungan intim yang mengijinkan kita mensurvey kecantikan fisik tersembunyi dari partner seks kita, pertama2 kita harus melalui rintangan kulit, mata, dan rambut.

Kita semua tahu bagaimana hal2 jelas yang menunjukkan “ sifat cantik” menjadi pegangan bagi pemilihan partner seks kita. Bahkan iklan paling pendek di Koran, menyebutkan warna kulit si penaruh iklan, dan warna kulit yang dia cari. Warna kulit tentu saja, juga merupakan kepentingan besar di mata social kita. Kalau anda orang Negro di Amerika mencoba membesarkan anak di kalangan org putih, polio dan kepanasan bukanlah suatu masalah yang patut dikuatirkan karena warna kulit anda. Warna mata dan bentuk rambut, walaupun tidak begitu penting seperti warna kulit, juga berperanan penting untuk selera seksual dan social kita. Tanya saja diri anda sendiri, kenapa cat rambut, keriting rambut, pelurusan rambut menerima sales yang luas. Anda boleh bertaruh kalau hal tersebut bukanlah untuk keselamatan kita dari diterkam beruang Amerika.
...

Bagi karakter ras tersebut yang berguna untuk mengklasifikasi manusia, beberapa berguna utk menolong penyesuaian, beberapa lagi untuk selera seksual, bahkan beberapa tidak ada fungsinya sama sekali. Ciri2 penampilan yang paling sering kita gunakan, adalah digunakan untuk selera seksual, tentunya bukanlah suatu kejutan. Kelainan ras ini bukan hanya mudah terlihat, tapi juga beraneka ragam; karena itulah mereka digunakan sejalannya sejarah untuk membentuk asumsi tentang org tertentu. Klasifikasi ras tidak datang dari ilmu pengetahuan, tetapi dari signal badaniah yang memisahkan org tampan/tidak untuk partner seks, dan untuk memisahkan kawan dari lawan.

Perkiraan buru2 seperti itu tidak mengancam keberadaan kita saat org2 hanya bersenjata tombak dan dikelilingi oleh org yang kebanyakan kelihatan seperti diri mrk sendiri. Di, dunia modern, namun, kita bersenjata pistol dan plutonium, dan kita menjalani hidup dikelilingi org yang lebih beraneka ragam penampilannya. Hal terakhir yang kita perlukan adalah untuk terus mengkode2 penampilan tsb kedalam kecanggungan system klasifikasi ras.....

Diamond, Jared. “Race Without Color.” Majalah Discover, November 1994

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